Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp.
Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs?
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[Phantom]
Mexico2170 Posts
Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? | ||
Waxangel
United States32556 Posts
On May 02 2024 09:18 [Phantom] wrote: I woudln't worry about the prize pool being too top heavy, as I don't doubt for a second players will just agree to split the price pool amongst themselves like they have admitted to in the past. Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? it also infamously didn't happen in the worst split tournament of all; the $100k winner-take-all Katowice. You can't be so sure that a split WILL happen—you can only say it MIGHT happen. | ||
lokol4890
58 Posts
On May 02 2024 09:18 [Phantom] wrote: I woudln't worry about the prize pool being too top heavy, as I don't doubt for a second players will just agree to split the price pool amongst themselves like they have admitted to in the past. Bost of 9 is truly a lot... specially if it turns out to be an stomp. Am I wrong in thinking Best of 9 really favors zergs? Definitely doesn't favor the current iteration of protoss. Probably doesn't favor any terran besides I guess clem since he can win with pure mechanics and doesn't have any injuries. Long story short, yeah probably favors zerg | ||
frustratedsc2user
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WombaT
Northern Ireland20852 Posts
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland3823 Posts
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10161 Posts
Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time. If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20852 Posts
On May 03 2024 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time... Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time. If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK. I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos, Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10161 Posts
On May 03 2024 06:35 WombaT wrote: Show nested quote + On May 03 2024 05:09 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: This is awesome, sad that Creator most definitely won't make it this time... Idk about Bo9 though. Sounds like too many games, too much fatigue, very little chance of a close series. Bo7 is already plenty. I get that it's a huge huge prize pool, but Bo7 is already enough games to try your best on. Playing like 8-9 games is just a really long time. If it's on separate days though then it'll be more OK. I feel my main issue is I can’t think of a single map pool that doesn’t have a few terribly balanced maps that are basically default vetos, Even in Bo7 they sometimes creep in as it is Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently | ||
Drahkn
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Sentikoret
18 Posts
Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? | ||
Tommy131313
Germany147 Posts
On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote: Show nested quote + Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. | ||
lokol4890
58 Posts
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote: Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. How would reynor splitting engagement make a difference? There are open sign ups for esl spring. Almost guaranteed he makes it in. And if he gets top 4 there, he makes ewc. For all the talk about ewc, there are currently only 5 players qualified. | ||
tigera6
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JJH777
United States4300 Posts
On May 04 2024 10:59 Tommy131313 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2024 04:56 Sentikoret wrote: Come to think of it, if the maps are bad for zerg then the longer series and more whacky counterpick maps might balance out decently Zergs on this patch were 0 out of top 4 last GSL, 0 in the entirety of Asia playoffs, currently 1/6 in EU and AM playoffs. What exactly should be balanced out? Exactly my thoughts... Neither BO9, nor actual mappool or balance patch is favouring Zerg tbh if we look at the last results. IIrc there are 2 Zerg left in the ESL Regional Spring Masters, 1 is in the global Spring Masters Event from last GSL season. There's a decent chance that Serral and Dark will be the only Zerg to qualify for EWC, maybe Solar will slip in via EPT Korea Standings, but I doubt Reynor will make it, expecially since he's splitting his engagement (and points) between Korea and EU Standings. So unless Serral can stay in top form despite his military duty, I don't see any Zerg with high chances for making a top four run at the EWC. What the heck is this lol. Solar and Reynor are 100% guaranteed to be there. You realize that besides the spots from Dallas and the literally only 2 open qualifier spots, the global and regional standings are the final deciders right? Even Ragnarok is nearly guaranteed making it considering that the top 4 of Dallas will most likely be at least 3 players who are already qualified and then those extra slots will just get added to the global standings. I think the only way Ragnarok doesn't go is if someone below him passes him in points (which seems unlikely as he's 200 points ahead of the person below him and that person is Bunny who didn't qualify for GSL) or if someone who is currently below him takes a top 4 at Dallas. That's pretty unlikely. I guess I could see someone like Showtime, Stats, DRG, or creator do that with some type of miracle run but seems very unlikely. If the top 4 of Dallas are all players who are currently above him then he's guaranteed to make it as long as Maxpax forfeits his slot as expected. | ||
JJH777
United States4300 Posts
It's not even an opinion thing it's just objectively wrong (and balance whining for the race that's won $3mil more than the other 2) to say Reynor won't qualify. | ||
M3t4PhYzX
Poland3823 Posts
well.. could have been better and more gruelling, but also could have been much worse (i've seen much worse). it's.. decent. that's my opinion. | ||
zelevin
United States201 Posts
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dysenterymd
1063 Posts
Also the world cup is far enough away that if 1-2 months from now Zerg is still struggling there will probably be minor alterations to the map pool, and all the best Zerg (Serral, Reynor, Solar, Dark, Rag) will already have qualified anyways. | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10161 Posts
For Creator, I'm very sad he probably won't make it. But maybe he can make Top 6-8 at Dallas and then qualify that way. Oh wait, if Creator can get 5th-6th in GSL, he could get 300 EPT Korea points and be about just 23 under SHIN. So if he does decently at Spring Masters and gets Top 16 again, he could actually make it I guess! 5th-6th sounds hard for GSL but he's in Top 8 already, just needs to win 1 match and not be last in his group. Though he'd need to beat someone like Byun, Solar, or Reynor which won't be easy unless he can bring his A game. If he gets Top 4, then he might be set. It may be hard for him though because there probably won't be many Zergs to face in Ro8. It's nice that these points are so important, really helps keep the stakes for tournies like GSL. I guess that's a big part of why Creator was so relieved he made it out, not for the money but for the EPT points. Qualifying for EWC would be such a huge amount of money. I really want him to make it! | ||
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